Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Grundschliff

English translation:

regrinding, honing and polishing

Added to glossary by Rowan Morrell
Sep 14, 2010 02:12
13 yrs ago
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German term

Grundschliff

German to English Tech/Engineering Mechanics / Mech Engineering Scissors Care
"Der ABC Schleifservice:

• Demontage, sorgfältige Prüfung und Nachschliff oder neuer Grundschliff je nach Erfordernis bei allen Scheren."

Talking about the care and maintenance of scissors. Nachschliff, as far as I can work out, is resharpening, but Grundschliff is yet another Schliff word I can't work out and find a translation for anywhere. TIA for your assistance.

Discussion

Johannes Gleim Sep 15, 2010:
That's correct "from scratch" means "Neuanafertigen", "von klein anfangen", "von vorne beginnen", "von der Pike auf lernen", etc.
see http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/search?sourceoverride... Compositions with grinding are only used with Marijuana acc. Google.
Bernd Runge Sep 15, 2010:
Kim that's close to "grinding from scratch", but the use of "scratch" in this context doesn't seem to be very apt ;-)
Johannes Gleim Sep 14, 2010:
von Grund auf (geschliffen) may be translated by (ground/sharpened/straightened/steeled/stropped) "basically" or "from the start/begin/ground". Reginding means "Nachschleifen". This is a different interpretation.
Kim Metzger Sep 14, 2010:
Bernd What's "von grund auf neu geschliffen" in English?
Johannes Gleim Sep 14, 2010:
So sehe ich das auch. .
Bernd Runge Sep 14, 2010:
Grundschliff Wenn bei der Prüfung festgestellt wird, dass ein Nachschleifen der Schere nicht mehr ausreicht, um die gewünschten Schneidergebnisse zu erzielen, wird ein Grundschliff durchgeführt. Das bedeutet hier nicht, das nur mit grobem Schleifmaterial gearbeitet wird, sondern dass die Klinge von Grund auf neu geschliffen wird. Danach folgen die anderen feineren Schleifgänge.
Hier geht es also um disassembling, testing/evaluation, re-sharpening und "refurbishing/reestablishing the initial shape of the cutting area" der Schere.

Proposed translations

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regrinding, honing and polishing

I think they have the order wrong here. The correct sequence would be grinding, honing, polishing

• Grind with 40 micron pad.
• Grind further with 9 micron pad.
• Polish with polishing pad.
• Hone edge with water stone.
http://www.angliaclipperservices.com/40040/info.php?p=3


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Regrinding

http://www.robuso.de/pages/service_en.asp?session=2605554461...

3. Regrinding by specialists only
If a pair of scissors is used extensively, the cutting performance may suffer. It is then advisable to seek the service of a specialist retailer or of one of ZWILLING J.A. HENCKELS own retail shops. There the scissors will be taken apart, the inside of the blades reground, the closing action re-established and finally the blades re-honed. Afterwards scissors and shears are practically as good as new.
http://www.zwilling.com/en-WW/sortiment/Scissors--scissors/C...

Based in Birmingham, SJ Grinding provides mobile Grinding and Sharpening services to clients throughout the West Midlands. Formed in March 2006 the company has over 45 years experience in the grinding, sharpening and surgical grinding business. Currently dealing with clients in the catering and hotel fields, such as chefs and owners of restaurants, they also do specialist services for hairdressers, tailors, florists, dressmakers, for regrinding their scissors.

http://www.freeindex.co.uk/profile(sj-grinding)_196487.htm
Peer comment(s):

agree Gabriella Bertelmann : agree
1 hr
agree phillee
2 hrs
neutral Bernd Runge : Reihenfolge: Entschuldigung, ich dachte, du meinst die Reihenfolge im Kontext der Frage. Deine Quelle fasst das Ganze allerdings ziemlich treffend als repair zusammen.
5 hrs
Which Reihenfolge? The one in my reference? No - the sequence for Grundschliff is regrinding, honing, polishing.
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coarse sharpening (operation)

...is what it seems to imply, unlike Nachschliff, which probably refers to the fine sharpening (operation).

'Coarse sharpening once again' or 'coarse resharpening' would be my tip for 'neuer Grundschliff'.
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4 hrs

grinding (base grinding)

Keramik-Schärfstein Shapton® (711604) Körnung 2000, für den Grundschliff von Klingen ohne Ausbrüche.
Shapton® Ceramic Sharpening Stone (711604) Grit 2000, for grinding blades without nicks.
http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/search?sourceoverride...


cut der Schliff - Messer
:
shape following grinding [tech.] formfolgender Schliff
shape giving grinding [tech.] formgebender Schliff
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&lang=de&searchLoc=0&cmpType...
Peer comment(s):

disagree Kim Metzger : It's called regrinding. http://tinyurl.com/23nssmk http://tinyurl.com/28fjn3o http://tinyurl.com/25os6l8
3 days 9 hrs
no bilingual page, taking nothing about "Grundschliff", therefore irrelevant. No reason, why "regrinding" should be translated by "Grundschliff". I would say "Nachschleifen" instead of.
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Reference comments

3 hrs
Reference:

Grundschliff, Feinschliff, Abzug

SAL-Korundstein + MicronBa-Schleifstein + Gelber belgischer Brocken (3-teilig)
3-teiliges Schleifstein-Komplett-Set mit einem mittelfeinen SAL-Korund-Schleifstein für den Vor- und Grundschliff, einem feinen MicronBa-Schleifstein für den Feinschliff sowie dem legendären belgischen Brocken für den Feinst- und Polierschliff und den Endabzug. Mit Wasser zu verwenden.

Grundschliff
Korund-Schleifstein
F 360-400 - mittelfein
100 x 50 x 20 mm
8.90 €

Feinschliff
Edelkorund-Schleifstein
F 600 - fein
100 x 50 x 12 mm
17.90 €

Abzug
Belgischer Brocken (gelb)
F 2000 (J 8000) - sehr fein
100 x 40 x 18-20 mm
29.90 €
http://www.wetzen-und-schleifen.de/schleifstein-sets.php

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The edges of both scissors and shears should not be honed smooth. They are designed to break through fibers, not to slice them, and the blades should therefore be sharpened only on the coarse face of the stone. Both scissors and shears are sharpened at a steep angle. The blades should meet and bear lightly on one another.
http://www.essortment.com/all/howtosharpen_rdcn.htm

Sharpening stones, water stones or whetstones are used to grind and hone the edges of steel tools and implements. Examples of items that may be sharpened with a sharpening stone include scissors, knives, razors and tools such as chisels and plane blades. Though it is sometimes mistaken as a reference to the water often used to lubricate such stones, the word "whetstone" is a compound word formed with the word "whet," which means to sharpen a blade, not the word "wet."

Sharpening stones come in a wide range of shapes, sizes and material compositions. Stones may be flat, for working flat edges, or shaped for more complex edges, such as those associated with some wood carving or woodturning tools. They may be composed of natural quarried material, or from man-made material.

Stones are usually available in various grades, which refers to the grit size of the particles in the stone. Generally, the finer the grit, the denser the material, which leads to a finer finish of the surface of the tool. Finer grits cut slower because they remove less material. Grits are often given as a number, which indicates the density of the particles with a higher number denoting higher density and therefore smaller particles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharpening_stone

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Sharpening straight edges (knives, chisels, etc.) by hand can be divided into phases. First the edge is sharpened with an abrasive sharpening stone, or a succession of increasingly fine stones, which shape the blade by removing material; the finer the abrasive the finer the finish. Then the edge may be stropped by polishing the edge with a fine abrasive such as rouge or tripoli on a piece of stout leather or canvas. The edge may be steeled or honed by passing the blade against a hard metal "steel" (which may be made of ceramic) which plastically deforms and straightens the material of the blade's edge which may have been rolled over irregularly in use, but not enough to need complete resharpening.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharpening

Knife sharpening proceeds in several stages, in order from coarsest (most destructive) to finest (most delicate). These may be referred to either by the effect or by the tool. Naming by effect, the stages are:

sharpening – removing metal to form a new edge
straightening – straightening the existing metal on the blade, but not removing significant quantities of metal
polishing – giving a mirror finish, but not significantly altering the edge.
"Honing" is used variously to mean either "straightening with very minor sharpening", using a honing steel, to contrast with sharpening, or to mean "fine sharpening", using a whetstone, to contrast with stropping.

Named by tools, the stages are:

grinding (on a grinding wheel) or whetting (on a whetstone)
steeling, using a honing steel
stropping, on a razor strop.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_sharpening
Peer comments on this reference comment:

disagree Kim Metzger : http://tinyurl.com/23nssmk http://tinyurl.com/28fjn3o http://tinyurl.com/25os6l8
3 days 10 hrs
no bilingual page, taking nothing about "Grundschliff", therefore irrelevant.
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