How can I get less payment for MTPE below 75% compared to segments for translation above 75%? Thread poster: Fredrik Pettersson
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How can I get less payment for MTPE below 75% compared to segments for translation above 75%?
I didn't sleep this night, maybe I am tired. But I can't see the logic: I have around 75 percent MTPE segments that are matches below 75% which I get lower payment for. Then I have matches above 75 percent that are charged at translation rate (higher rate than for MTPE segments). Why? The easiest segments to translate are those matches above 75 percent, and I get higher payment for those. W... See more How can I get less payment for MTPE below 75% compared to segments for translation above 75%?
I didn't sleep this night, maybe I am tired. But I can't see the logic: I have around 75 percent MTPE segments that are matches below 75% which I get lower payment for. Then I have matches above 75 percent that are charged at translation rate (higher rate than for MTPE segments). Why? The easiest segments to translate are those matches above 75 percent, and I get higher payment for those. Why? ▲ Collapse
| | | | | You don't get higher payment above 75% | May 11, 2023 |
Fredrik Pettersson wrote:
How can I get less payment for MTPE below 75% compared to segments for translation above 75%?
I didn't sleep this night, maybe I am tired. But I can't see the logic: I have around 75 percent MTPE segments that are matches below 75% which I get lower payment for. Then I have matches above 75 percent that are charged at translation rate (higher rate than for MTPE segments). Why? The easiest segments to translate are those matches above 75 percent, and I get higher payment for those. Why?
The client presumably applies a grid of reductions for fuzzy matches above 75%, so you don't get paid more per word for these.
| | | | Fredrik Pettersson 
Hong Kong
Local time: 13:33
Member (2009)
English to Swedish
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TOPIC STARTER | Translation rate for matches from the real TM and MTPE rate for matches from the MT engine | May 11, 2023 |
The first step of the logic is clear for me: MTPE rate (lower rate) for low-percentage matches (up to 74%) from the MT engine (I think it's DeepL) instead of full translation rate for no match-74% match because I get some help if the MT engine outputs translations of quite good quality.
The second step of the logic is still not clear for me: These are high-percentage matches that come from the real translation memories (there are several translation memories). First of all, because ... See more The first step of the logic is clear for me: MTPE rate (lower rate) for low-percentage matches (up to 74%) from the MT engine (I think it's DeepL) instead of full translation rate for no match-74% match because I get some help if the MT engine outputs translations of quite good quality.
The second step of the logic is still not clear for me: These are high-percentage matches that come from the real translation memories (there are several translation memories). First of all, because these high-percentage matches come from real translation memories, the base rate should be that for translation and not for MTPE (a higher rate, higher base rate). There should be better quality on these real translations from real translation memories compared to MT engine outputs, although it should be very difficult to have a fixed ratio between the rates in this regard as the MT engine outputs can differ widely as to quality, even when using the same MT engine.
Secondly, and now I might agree with the logic after all, perhaps because these are high-percentage matches, the lower total rate for them, taking into account the different reductions in rate for the ranges above 75% match, might, more or less, coincide in final "net" per word rate with that of lower matches from the MT engine (DeepL) - the total rate for these high-percentage translation matches might either get a bit lower or a bit higher than the rate for low-percentage MT matches from the MT engine (DeepL) (that remains the same for the whole range no match-74% match). ▲ Collapse
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Zea_Mays
Italy
Local time: 13:33
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| What are "higher/lower MT matches"? | May 11, 2023 |
What do you mean with this term?
| | | | Fredrik Pettersson
Hong Kong
Local time: 13:33
Member (2009)
English to Swedish
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TOPIC STARTER | High-band machine translated fuzzy matches | May 11, 2023 |
I could rephrase it something like "high-band machine translated fuzzy matches" perhaps. In other words, fuzzy matches from the machine translation (not the real translation memories for the project) that are, for instance, 95-99% match segments are "high-band machine translated fuzzy matches". But in my case, these high-band machine translated fuzzy matches don't exist as they are only below 75% matches (from the machine translation).
| | | | Zea_Mays
Italy
Local time: 13:33
Member (2009)
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| When doing MTPE... | May 11, 2023 |
I have directly machine translated strings, and I am paid a certain fix rate for full or light post editing.
So I was wondering what "MT matches" are as I never heard about such a thing.
What do these strings match with?
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| | | | Fredrik Pettersson
Hong Kong
Local time: 13:33
Member (2009)
English to Swedish
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TOPIC STARTER | MT matches are matches from a MT system such as DeepL | May 11, 2023 |
MT matches are matches from a MT system that, I suppose, my customer has fine-tuned the output from.
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Zea_Mays
Italy
Local time: 13:33
Member (2009)
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Fredrik Pettersson wrote:
MT matches are matches from a MT system that, I suppose, my customer has fine-tuned the output from.
DeepL has a MT matches system? Hm...
Could it be the client is trying to pull you over the barrel?
| | | | Zea_Mays
Italy
Local time: 13:33
Member (2009)
English to German
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| MTPE standard: | May 11, 2023 |
You get machine translated text and are paid to edit it.
The rate for this service can differ, but for good MT output a rate of 70% of your regular translation rate for the relevant topic is ok.
The rate is applied to the total word count, there are no discounts on any phantomatic matches.
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