SMARTCAT tons of TAGS translating from French to Italian Thread poster: Simona Arminio
|
|---|
Hello everyone,
I would need your help because I started using SMARTCAT but I have a problem when I upload a file in French.
All the letters where there is an accent (and in French it's almost every word), Smartcat is inserting one of the yellow tags. To be able to confirm the segments I should add all those tags also to the right column: a nightmare!
Probably it's me that I'm not good because I'm a newbee, but I would be so grateful if you could help me.
Thanks a lot!
| | | |
Stepan Konev 
Russian Federation
Local time: 21:52
English to Russian
What you describe is called a tag soup. It happens when you ocr a bitmap image file with a tool that can't process the file properly. You have to clean your file before you import it into Smartcat. You can use TransTools (a better choice), or codezapper, or similar software.
| | | |
| Thanks for suggesting TransTools | May 11, 2022 |
Stepan Konev wrote: What you describe is called a tag soup. It happens when you ocr a bitmap image file with a tool that can't process the file properly. You have to clean your file before you import it into Smartcat. You can use TransTools (a better choice), or codezapper, or similar software.
Thanks a lot for your suggestion Stepan.
I have a Mac and apparently there is no Mac version for TransTools
| | | |
esperantisto
Local time: 21:52
Member (2006)
English to Russian
+ ...
SITE LOCALIZER | File format? | May 13, 2022 |
What is the file format that you upload?
| | |
|
|
|
| SMARTCAT tons of TAGS translating from French to Italian | May 13, 2022 |
esperantisto wrote:
What is the file format that you upload?
It's a Word file (saved for Mac).
I also tried to clean / remove all the accents from the source file in French but it is a nightmare as well and does not make any sense.
| | | |
Stepan Konev
Russian Federation
Local time: 21:52
English to Russian
| You can try this: | May 13, 2022 |
Simona Ar wrote:
It's a Word file Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Ctrl+D in MS Word to open the font settings window. Go to the 'Advanced' tab, set 'Scale' to 100%, 'Spacing' to Normal and 'Position' to Normal too. This will remove most tags.
This issue happens because some OCR software recognizes each character individually and may add different formatting to different characters. When formatting changes within a segment, your CAT tool adds a tag. That is why you see so many tags.
[Edited at 2022-05-13 14:13 GMT]
| | | |
| SMARTCAT tons of TAGS translating from French to Italian | May 13, 2022 |
Stepan Konev wrote: Simona Ar wrote:
It's a Word file Press Ctrl+A to select all, then press Ctrl+D in MS Word to open the font settings window. Go to the 'Advanced' tab, set 'Scale' to 100%, 'Spacing' to Normal and 'Position' to Normal too. This will remove most tags. This issue happens because some OCR software recognizes each character individually and may add different formatting to different characters. When formatting changes within a segment, your CAT tool adds a tag. That is why you see so many tags. [Edited at 2022-05-13 14:13 GMT]
Thanks a lot for your suggestion Stepan!
Trying to apply what you're telling me on my Mac but can't find...
Cannot find the setting window where I can set: SCALE, SPACING and POSITION
| | | |
esperantisto
Local time: 21:52
Member (2006)
English to Russian
+ ...
SITE LOCALIZER
I. More or less simple:
1. Open your file in Word.
2. Open the formatting dialog by Ctrl+D, do what Stepan advises plus set a uniform font face for the entire text.
3. Select the entire text, set the language to None and hit F7 for spellcheck (almost immediately it will report completion).
4. Remove multiple spaces, non-breaking spaces, soft hyphens.
Also, try to save to RTF and save back to Word.
II. A bit more convoluted wa... See more I. More or less simple:
1. Open your file in Word.
2. Open the formatting dialog by Ctrl+D, do what Stepan advises plus set a uniform font face for the entire text.
3. Select the entire text, set the language to None and hit F7 for spellcheck (almost immediately it will report completion).
4. Remove multiple spaces, non-breaking spaces, soft hyphens.
Also, try to save to RTF and save back to Word.
II. A bit more convoluted way: try the following macro made by Marc Prior to level the character formatting of a paragraph (i. e. to set formatting for all characters of a paragraph equal to the last character):
Sub levelformat()
'
' levelformat macro
'
'
Selection.MoveUp Unit:=wdParagraph, Count:=1
Selection.MoveDown Unit:=wdParagraph, Count:=1, Extend:=wdExtend
Selection.MoveLeft Unit:=wdWord, Count:=1, Extend:=wdExtend
Selection.Copy
Selection.PasteSpecial DataType:=wdPasteText
End Sub
…and then also do steps 3 and 4 of the simple procedure. ▲ Collapse
| | |
|
|
|
esperantisto
Local time: 21:52
Member (2006)
English to Russian
+ ...
SITE LOCALIZER | And the simplest way is… | May 14, 2022 |
1. Open the file in LibreOffice.
2. Ctrl + A to select the entire text.
3. Ctrl + M to reset formatting to the paragraph style.
If nothing of the above helps, share a sample file for further advise.
| | | |
| CafeTran Espresso on Mac | May 14, 2022 |
Simona Ar wrote: I have a Mac and apparently there is no Mac version for TransTools
My suggestion:
Download CafeTran Espresso from www.cafetran.com.
Install it.
Drag the Ms Word document onto the Dashboard.
In the Project Configuration dialogue box choose the Ms Word OCR file format option.
Open the project.
Do nothing else.
Export the project: you'll get a clean version of the Ms Word document that you can process in Smartcat.
Import:
Export:
[Edited at 2022-05-14 08:41 GMT]
| | | |
| SMARTCAT tons of TAGS translating from French to Italian | May 15, 2022 |
esperantisto wrote:
I. More or less simple:
Thanks a lot for all your suggestions!
Cannot find all the commands you're mentioning on my Mac
Looks like the "Cafetran" solution is working...
| | | |
| SMARTCAT tons of TAGS translating from French to Italian | May 15, 2022 |
Hans Lenting wrote: Simona Ar wrote: I have a Mac and apparently there is no Mac version for TransTools My suggestion: Download CafeTran Espresso from www.cafetran.com. [Edited at 2022-05-14 08:41 GMT]
Thanks a lot Hans!
I did what you suggested and it worked!
Honestly at this point I can also use Cafetran (that I didn't know) for the translation instead of Smartcat.
I'm trying to understand how much is the subscription for Cafetran. Is there a free version available?
Can I ask you which one would you suggest between SMARTCAT and CAFETRAN?
Thanks again
| | |
|
|
|
Simona Ar wrote:
Can I ask you which one would you suggest between SMARTCAT and CAFETRAN?
CafeTran
https://www.cafetran.com/get-cafetran/
Or via Proz Plus package:
That is 172,92 Euro.
[Edited at 2022-05-16 07:14 GMT]
| | | |
| SMARTCAT tons of TAGS translating from French to Italian | May 16, 2022 |
Hans Lenting wrote: Simona Ar wrote:
Can I ask you which one would you suggest between SMARTCAT and CAFETRAN? CafeTran https://www.cafetran.com/get-cafetran/ Or via Proz Plus package: That is 172,92 Euro. [Edited at 2022-05-16 07:14 GMT]
Great, thanks Hans!
| | | |
Login to reply/comment 
